Interview with Jade Leray - Supporting Celiac's Sync to their Cycle Ep. 112

On today's episode I am chatting with fellow Celiac Jade Leray who is the founder and owner of Beautiful Bodies Society, and the Get Synced app and program.  Jade is passionate about teaching women to adopt a ‘sync-to-cycle’ approach to their health and fitness regimes.

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Speaker 1: 0:24

Welcome back to this week's episode of the Healthy Celiac podcast. I have a wonderful guest on the show to share some amazing information with you today. So I'd love you to help me welcome Jade LaRay , who is today, to talk to us about women's health and periods. She's an expert on this field, and she's also a health coach and a nutritionist. She's got her own app, she's got a podcast. She's amazing. She's got so much to share with us today. So I'm gonna throw her over to her today and she's gonna tell us a little bit more about herself and her journey with celiac disease, and then we'll jump in and teach you guys about period health and how you can make it work for you. So welcome to the show, Jade . It's great to have you.

Speaker 2: 1:09

Hi. Thank you. No, I'm so excited. Yes . So , um, it is been a long journey , um, for me, and , um, yeah , I'm excited to share it. So yeah, as , as you said , an intro. I love to teach women all about their cycle , um, and their hormones. Um, I do a little bit of gut health stuff, but my main focus is tho those hormones and , um, just pure because of my own issues that I've had. Um, and they, you know, they really stemmed from such a young age mm-hmm. <affirmative> , um, and through my gut issues and , um, the di my diagnosis of , um, the Celiac and the , um, lactose, there's been such a , um, like I felt like that just scratched the surface for me. Yeah . And so it's been a long journey. Um, and then I guess my world kind of really fell apart after I had my daughter. Um, so I guess it , it , and , and that's where my business was born. So I'll start at the beginning. So I, I did suffer a lot from that issues growing up as a , as school. But then yeah , into my twenties. In my twenties, I decided that , um, I could think all deaf <laugh> .

Speaker 1: 2:22

Cause

Speaker 2: 2:22

I constantly Yeah . You know , going out in the club and partying , um, with a bloated belly and feeling very uncomfortable all the time was awful. But, you know, I think you just said that age where I , I was like, I don't even know. And I don't think it was very, it was not talked about mm-hmm. <affirmative> , um, back then as, as how , um, you know, I guess trendy it is now. So , um, it, it probably all began , um, when I, I can't remember the exact age that I was, but it was roughly , um, roughly about eight years ago, I would say. Yeah. Roughly about eight, nine years ago. Um, and I was working, and I used to work as a rep, so I used to drive around to see all the pharmacies. And I , um, went through a stage where I had diarrhea for , uh, a months , and I went to my doctor and they said, oh, it must just be that you're , um, you , you've got something mental going on. Let's put you in antidepressant. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> do that . And I said, like , yes. I , I have , I was dealing with a little bit of stress at that time. It wasn't anything overloaded, nothing that was really extreme. Yeah . But , um, it was enough obviously, to really stir up my gut. And , um, I said, no, I actually need to look into this further. When I was younger, I was attacked . My , my mom took me to a gastroenterologist and it was diagnosed with ipss. So I said, like, you know, I think , um, I've ignored the symptoms for long enough. Uh , and I was getting really anxious cause I was working on the road . Yeah . That not good . I just , every public toilet .

Speaker 1: 3:57

Yeah. That's stressful. I

Speaker 2: 4:02

Said , no , enough is enough. You know, like, I'm , I'm ready to, to actually investigate this and, and actually confront the , the issues. Yep . So , um, I, they , at that point, they did some genetic testing. Um , she said to me , let's send you off biopsy . And I said, no , I don't need to go through that procedure to know that gluten is not my friend, and I am , I'm not. I'm gonna not eat it and I'm gonna , um, just see how it goes. So she did like some , she did genetic testing at that point. As I said, it was a long time ago. And I think they do , um, antibody testing , um, now more o so over the genetic testing. Uh , and then at that point she also did lactose . So I had this like, obviously this , this kind of like world of, okay, well I can't eat , um, I can't eat gluten, I can't , um, consume dairy. Like, and it was just, you know, like, oh , okay , this is really different for me mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, you know, I remember feeling, you know, going to a restaurant and being like , is this gluten free ? And you , you know, you just kind of get the eye roll and mm-hmm . And I said, like, I was determined though to really fix my gut to really address a lot of these issues Yeah. But , um, were, were really affecting me and my , and my life and with my mental health as well. So that at that point , um, you know, I cut out those , um, gluten and dairy and lived my life quite happily. Yeah. Um, sort of <laugh>

Speaker 1: 5:29

Sort of , you know, like ,

Speaker 2: 5:29

I feel like that was a scratch at the surface . Yeah. Um , underneath that I did have a lot of , um, hormonal issues and being on the pill at a young age mm-hmm . <affirmative> . Um , I also really struggled with my cycle and massive , um, headaches. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> like a migraine two weeks out of the month. And as, as I said, being a rep working, I , I struggled to drive some days and I found that really difficult. So there was a lot boiling under the surface. Um, and I was just put on different pills until I eventually had the implant on put in , which kind of saved me because Okay . I had no period. I thought it was the best thing in the world. Um , you know, no period , no pns , no names .

Speaker 1: 6:12

Yep .

Speaker 2: 6:13

And, and I just was like, well, this is , this is crazy. As, so I just kept that in for, I think it's three years. You keep that in. After the third year was after I got married and my husband and I were like, yeah , well, let's, I'm gonna have it removed. It expired, so let's not put it back on. Let's see what happens . Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and boy, I was like, hit with my first period <laugh> after period , not , or not being on Theon and having no period. And I was like, oh my God . Oh ,

Speaker 1: 6:40

What is this <laugh> ? Yeah . And I think

Speaker 2: 6:43

I was on the pill at like 15 or something. Wow . So yeah , I couldn't really remember back , um, you know, that long ago what a period was like mm-hmm. <affirmative> . So for me it was really intense. Um , yeah . And I got pregnant really quickly, which is really great. Like, you know , um, that , that was amazing. I, I think roughly it was three months, but , um, as I said, my periods weren't regular. They weren't really heavy. And , and yeah . Having the PMs , I didn't know, you know, what was happening. Yeah . So , um, I got pregnant and at that point, before I got pregnant, I just went to my doctor and I started seeing a new doctor who was , um, you know, a little bit more functional, and I really wanted to get to the bottom of my gut issue. So excited she was gonna do all these new tests. Um, and then I went into the doctor's after having a blood test , and she's like , oh , you're pregnant . So it was like, that's how I found out. And I remember just being like, hold on. What <laugh>

Speaker 1: 7:40

So quick <laugh> ,

Speaker 2: 7:42

Few years . Um , so that, I mean, obviously that's such a blessing. So yeah , it was really great. So , um, she said, look, we're gonna have to halt all this gut issue stuff. You're just gonna have to continue doing what you're doing and we'll, we'll address all this stuff after. Yeah . I thought being , um, you know , being in the fitness industry, even though I worked properly, I was part-time teaching Pilates and being in the fitness industry, I always thought like I was quite healthy and I'd have a , I'd have a strong health was in the forefront of my goals and values Yeah . All the time. So , um, I felt like I was quite switched on, but when I got pregnant, I already had , um, like a low functioning thyroid. I had a lot of , um, like I was already malnourished, like I was dying deficient. I was , um, uh, like a lot of , um, like my B vitamin means , like my falla , all these things that you kind of go in to have this check when you're pregnant mm-hmm . <affirmative> , I was already quite depleted. Right. And I'd imagine that this, would it be an impact from years of gut issues. Yep . You know, those IVs symptoms and , you know, constipation, for me, it was more of a diarrhea type situation. Um, and I guess being very picky, cheesy with my food , um, it it , it led to kind of a lot of not having a , a great , um, nourishing diet, which, you know, I , I , for a little while of my life lived on , um, a lot of protein shakes because it , it was something that, you know, I could actually digest mm-hmm . <affirmative> and I actually felt quite, quite good on them. Yep . But long , obviously, long term . Yeah . You know , they , they weren't real food . They're not whole food . They can't replace whole

Speaker 1: 9:18

Food . Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:20

It , when I got into pregnancy stage, you know, my doctor was like, what's going on here? <laugh> . Um , and so I had to just go through my pregnancy now. My pregnancy ended up being , um, quite stressful. Um, I ended up with an enlarged heart, so cardio . Oh , wow . Um , and I wasn't diagnosed with that until at the end of my pregnancy. I was , um, just having a lot of issues with , um, blood pressure, but being extremely low, whole spring , really high fainting. And so when I got out of my pregnancy, again, my doctor was with me the whole way, and as I said, she's been my doctor ever since . We then did more tests , um, and it came back with , um, also diagnosed with Hashimotos . So an autoimmune condition that affects your thyroid. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> . So within this , I a new baby .

Speaker 1: 10:07

Oh , wow . Heart

Speaker 2: 10:08

Condition, I've got this Hashimoto , I'm like , I don't even understand all these words .

Speaker 1: 10:14

Yeah . It's a lot . Start

Speaker 2: 10:16

Off with fixing my gut. Yeah . And , and ending up with , um, all of these, these things. And, you know, like, I wasn't even 30 at that point, I think, well , it was like 28 . And it was like, you know, I , I guess because I had health at such a forefront of my mind , and then for all of these like diagnosis , diagnosis would come through and be like, like, how has this happened to me? You know? So I think I put a lot of guilt within myself that I was doing everything wrong, that , um, you know, my body couldn't handle the most natural thing. Yeah . Um , a female body can do. I had huge amounts of struggles with , um, breastfeeding. Uh , we had breast refusal. Literally, my daughter didn't not come near me. So it was like, it was such a, it was such a , um, long process. And I think about like, it's been, it's been something that's been in the back of my mind for so long. Yeah . I never really faced it until, I guess I kind of had to , um, like post pregnancy. Yeah . So , um, after that I like, it was like 18 months I went back to work. I got my redundant six weeks later, <laugh> . I was like , oh my God, here we go again. <laugh> , when , when is happening

Speaker 1: 11:33

To me , which is usually a blessing, when you reflect on it, it's usually a blessing, but at the time it's <laugh> .

Speaker 2: 11:40

Oh my God. Yeah. That's just that feeling of rejection. Yeah . I mean, yeah . It's not a nice feeling, but it absolutely was a blessing in disguise because I, my husband said, you know, why don't you just take it easy, run some fitness classes from the house. I love, I've always loved teaching fitness. I , I , I just love it. It's my favorite thing to do. I just love women exercising, you know, mental health. It's so , it's so important. So , um, I thought, right , I'll just run it for my, for my garage. And that was, that was really all I did. Um, and didn't really have like a business or anything set out , but it was just something that I was like, you know, I could probably just do this as, as my, my little thing while I raised my , my daughter. Yep . Um , so in the meantime, I started studying and learning. I wanted to know everything there was to know about my gut stuff. I wanted to learn about this motos . I wanted to learn about why I struggled too much with my pregnancy, how to narration , feed my body correctly , uh, how to handle a cycle. I never was going on any form of contraception. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , and I haven't been on any form of contraception. And my daughter say six, and we haven't had another <laugh>

Speaker 1: 12:52

That we're trying for one . Which is so empowering, isn't it? It's so empowering not being on contraception, because you learn so much more about your body than just relying on a tablet to tell you when you're gonna start bleeding, basically. I , exactly . I think it's incredible. Yeah . Sorry. Thank you . <laugh> .

Speaker 2: 13:09

I use that , like , that fertility awareness method and , um, so anyway, and I just , all of this stuff, like, I just started learning and honestly, I was like running the fitness business and was kind of like, well, you know what? I can, I have this lady that come in and she would suffer with, you know, a gut problem, or she would have an issue with her period, or, and then I would be trying to teach them to exercise. And I, I used to, when I was first in the fitness industry, like, you've got your period night , you like, smash it out every day , this is what you're here for. And it wasn't until I was starting to really care for my body and such a different way, I was like, I can't teach like this anymore. I can't teach the way I was taught

Speaker 1: 13:51

A personal trainer. Okay .

Speaker 2: 13:53

I have to really learn the way maybe females should train mm-hmm . <affirmative> and , and live and eat with , with their cycle. Yeah . Um, and that's kind of like how the business was born , because

Speaker 1: 14:05

Fantastic.

Speaker 2: 14:06

Literally all these women that were just coming to my bootcamp , I said, oh , do you wanna learn a bit more about this? And they're like, yes, yes,

Speaker 1: 14:12

Yes. From awesome . From from there .

Speaker 2: 14:15

Um, yeah, I did , um, more , did more study. I , I do , um, DNA analysis and that was really eye opening , um, for me as well. Um, but also just learning about the cycle. Um, now I have an in-person studio, so I'm based in Adelaide. I've got an in-person studio , uh, but we also have an app called Get Synced by bbbs. So it's a , a fitness and lifestyle based app where you can understand your cycle, live all in sync with your, with your cycle. Um, learn how to live, eat like <laugh> , brilliant, all the things. Track the symptoms, track the cycle.

Speaker 1: 14:50

I'll pop a link below to that as well so people can check it out.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Yeah. So that , and that's basically , um, my story and yeah . Um , and I guess how I got to today, just trying to really educate myself on what the hell my , what he was doing. Yeah. With knowing that I have a lot of weight was lifted off my shoulders because I started to then go, you know what? This isn't my fault. Yeah . Like, especially with the genetic testing. Yeah. Um, I found out I've got like a fairly rare gene. I mean, it affects about 20% of the population, but it's like, it's called the foot two genes F ut two gene. Um , and it's a non , it's , it's a non-SEC gene. I won't mention too much about it cause it can get really complicated, but basically it affects the mucus membranes of your body. And of course your gut is layered with mm-hmm .

Speaker 1: 15:40

<affirmative> , lots of <laugh> membrane . Yep .

Speaker 2: 15:43

Um , and it affects , uh, there , there's a , I don't have a , a set of sugar that's in there. So , um, uh, some bacteria that are really important for digestion and for metabolizing foods , um, I can't produce. So it's really interesting. I don't produce the main sugar in breast milk. Um, hence probably why I had this , um, struggle with breastfeeding and this refusal , um, like refused , um, to feed , like , I used to have a bottle of breast milk that I pumped and a bottle of formula, and she just wouldn't go , um, near the, the , the breast milk. And , you know, at that point we were , everyone was kind of baffled. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:21

So it's,

Speaker 2: 16:23

I I really feel like , um, the learning and the understanding of my body has just lifted such a weight off my shoulder mm-hmm . <affirmative> and I being think , and now I'm able to, you know, help other women Yeah . Understand this Yeah . And learn , you know, learn to scratch the surface and start to dig deeper Yeah . And really empower them to not only understand the way their body functions, but also the way the female cycle functions and how we live in this like, very masculine world where it's always like, you , you , you do the hundred percent

Speaker 1: 16:57

Yeah . Go, go, go all the time. Yep . Yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:59

That's it . Whereas, you know, males have this 24 hour cycle, they literally peak in the morning and they fall in the evening. They're , they're like , men are like the sun . Whereas females are like the moon. We have, you know , different with four different phases where we completely have , um, different personalities mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Speaker 1: 17:17

Yes .

Speaker 2: 17:18

Everything . So , you know , metabolism changes, everything changes. And I just , I once women understand this and, and , and when I talk about it and all these like , light bulbs go off, it's like, oh my god .

Speaker 1: 17:30

Yes. Absolutely. It's so passionate

Speaker 2: 17:33

Now.

Speaker 1: 17:34

Yeah . And it , it's so funny that you talk about that because like when we, when we first started chatting about doing this episode, it's really only being the last couple of years that I've learned more about my cycle and, and what you're talking about. That we do different things at different times of the month. And, you know, when I probably very first got educated on periods and how that all works, it would've been high school. And it's basically, you're gonna get your period and you're gonna be a bit grumpy beforehand. And that was about it. There was no, there's four cycles of your period and there was, you know, you're gonna do this at this time. There was none of that education. And I'm in my forties and I honestly didn't know any of this until a couple of years ago, which just blows my mind that I've got through life and never even been taught this. And now that I'm learning about it, like you say, you , you do have to fit your life around your cycle. And, you know, I've completely changed the way that I do my business around my cycle. You know, there's certain times of the month where I'm kicking myself because I should have recorded a podcast video or I should have done my social media, and I'm like, I just can't be bothered. I just don't feel like it. Yeah . So now I batch my videos and I batched my work because I know that there's certain times of the month where I'm much more productive and I never knew that before. Like, this would've been so much more helpful to know 10, 20 years ago than in my forties. So, you know, whatever you can teach us on this would be super helpful. I'm sure whoever's listening to this will just be mind blown with some of this info that you're gonna share with us today. So. Yeah. Yeah .

Speaker 2: 19:19

And as I said, it , it does , it blows my mind. And when I speak , when I talk about it , even on just social media and , and you know , ladies are commenting or whatever, and they're like, oh my God, I didn't know . And , and you know what, when when I go into it, it , I say like, it just, it works like magic. Yep . But we are so conditioned to work so far away from this module mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yep . Um , and I do, I hope like , um, as I said, our pre-chat before we got on here , I was saying how , um, you know, like I , I've been attracting lately a lot of women in business that all women with side hustles that are kind of their moms, they've got a business, they maybe working corporately and they're just, their bodies are just like, can't cope . Yeah. I , I dunno where I read this, but I read this somewhere. Look , it , it was probably on social media, so , so I'm not sure how credible it is , <laugh> . It was like , women have the same stress. Um, now , um, then if, if so women have the same stress as what they do now in the 1920s or something, they would actually be admitted to a psych hospital or like that , like

Speaker 1: 20:24

Oh wow . Kinda stress doesn't surprise me. Exactly . Where

Speaker 2: 20:27

Yeah . I read it, but I , it really was like that . Ah , it's so true. Like , and I think , like my grandma says to me all the time , oh , you just look exhausted . You

Speaker 1: 20:38

Thanks , slow down . Yeah .

Speaker 2: 20:42

You know, so I , I feel like unlocking this power about hormones and our outside Yeah . Um , can really allow women to give them the opportunity and also the give them the okay to rest. Yes . Cause the big thing is , you know , like I hate the fact that I'm the one that has to give permission when , when I've got my one-on-one clients , um, I say , you know what, you're heading into pre period , you know, what can we do in this phase to really help to manage your stress better? And they're like, oh , have a day on the couch. I'm like, yes, yes . Do it. And they're like, what <laugh> ? Yeah . You know, like, so it , it sucks that, you know, that literally we feel like we are , can't even give ourselves permission to slow down and do that. So , so yeah . Also going to the phases and we'll talk about , so with Beautiful Body Society , um, which is my business and I've come up with a , a bit of a methodology behind it to also help women , um, have these really bite size pieces of information and put it into their cycle, obviously. Um, if you end up downloading , um, the app that gets in by B bbbs , um, there is obviously a lot more information about it. Yeah . But I'll go over the basics and I'll share the few like little magic , um, tips and tricks, but Excellent. Um , I break this cycle down into four phases. So , um, the first phase is the, your period phase. And um, in bbbs , I call my business bbbs beautiful body study . We talk about this phase as the refreshed phase. So obviously in this phase you are bleeding , um, your body is losing lots of resources mm-hmm . <affirmative> . And the two main hormones that I'll I'll chat about today is estrogen and progesterone. They're the two major , um, are hormones in the female cycle. Um, and those in your bleed phase, you a fresh phase or your period phase, they are at lowest. So technically like, you know, you hear the saying kind of , oh , I'm so hormonal. And it's like , you know , actually there's no hormones , so you're not hormonal . You know what, if you're hormonal, then that's good. It's a good thing. Okay . We are hormonal beings . Yes. So , um, those two are out there then Lois , so during this phase, I find it's a bit of a phase of, of , um, of refresh. So you come in, you reflect , um, I really like to look at your period as a bit of a report card. So how was the last month? Like, what was your stress like? Um, what, what were you doing? How could you be , how can you better your period next month? And when I say better your period, I'm saying like, you know, reduce the crabs, reduce the heavy bleeds mm-hmm . <affirmative> , um, you know, any PMs that's leading up to your cycle, but also that's really present when you have your period you're experiencing, I call it like a period wipe out where you weren't just like, you , you have to just hit the floor for a few days . Yeah. Um , and you really can't function without some sort of pain relief , um, I guess to , to numb everything that's going on. So it's a really a beautiful time to reflect and, and refresh and focus on what you wanna achieve in your, in your cycle. Um, it's not a time to be going out there and doing all the cool, fun things <laugh> . Um , and of course it's sometimes hard. So we, I say you've really gotta counteract that stress. Yes . So if you have something coming up, you've got an event on, and you are , you're really having a really hard , um, bleed this month, then how can there be other ways to, you know, nourish and respect your body and honor, honor what's going on? So it might be, you know, instead of rushing around like most of, most mums and women do, you're actually taking more time to, to come in and , and rest or take a bath and go have a massage or book those things that are going to help to fill your cup and , and really help to like slow Yes . Them down. Yep . Um , rather than be so, so hyper . So , um, the next phase , um, we're going to the follicular phase. So , um, uh, the next, so I like to call , this is a revive phase. So this is after your bleed. So roughly you might bleed one to five, one to seven days. And obviously this is based on a very re like, you know, a very basic regular cycle. I know women's cycles are very different. Yeah . And that's why I like women to track their symptoms and to track , um, their temperature , um, and their , the way that their body feels in different times. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> . So that will really empower them to understand what's actually happening in the different phases. Yep . Um, but we move into the phase, so this is where we have the estrogen dominant phase. And estrogen is , um, she is , you imagine estrogen and Perone is like two best and estrogen is a bit of your party girl. She's more confident. She likes to get out of the house. She's, she feels us pain, she's stronger. Love that description. <laugh> . Yeah . Yeah . So she , she's like that messy that comes in is like , come on off the couch , let's get going . Okay . Um , and so she helps us, like she regulates our blood sugar better. She helps us , um, feel less pain. You know, it's, it is almost like when you head out of your period, you have like this better appetite control Isha doing is like, kind of in charge of that. She feels really good on your skin. So tend we tend to post period have a , a better , um, complexion. We have better skin at that time . Um, so she, she's kind of this, this beautiful lady that, that comes in after your period and starts to spark at that time. So you do, you get more confident. Um, I like to call this a revived phase cuz we're reviving out of our periods, not the phase to like go, go, go, mm-hmm . <affirmative> . And it's just a bit of a phase to go , okay , well we've just lost a heap of resources, so we've lost blood , we've lost minerals, vitamins, all those things. Let's top them up and let's slowly enter into this new, this new phase. So we're reviving our bodies coming out of the bleed into the next , um, the next chapter. So we tend to kind of have, we have control in this phase. Like, you know, most women are kinda like , yeah , this phase is so much more easier for Yes. Um , so, you know , nourishing correctly, you can start to increase that intensity of your exercise , um, and get you kind of getting ready for that ovulation phase. So after Felic , um, we go into the atory phase, so that's when , um, this is my favorite phase. We call this the achieve phase . So this is where you get up . Yeah . Here

Speaker 1: 27:08

Is the phase Absolutely <laugh> like my favorite phase <laugh> . Yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:13

You have this beautiful burst of energy that estrogen rises , um, and it like peaks in this phase . Um , also have a slight presence of testosterone as well. So that mix of testosterone, an estrogen, it just gives us like more confidence. Obviously it's the time where we're meant to be getting busy and making babies . Yep .

Speaker 1: 27:33

<laugh> . So you

Speaker 2: 27:34

Feel more sensual, you'll feel more confident in your , in your body. Yep . Um, and you just, you just have this beautiful energy. So yeah. Estrogen's really peaking , um, at that, at this achieved phase, at this arbitrary phase. So I say you just get all the things done. So you know, if you're , if you're focusing on work and business, this would be the time to book those meetings, book those stressful things. Um , because you definitely can handle more stress. Your body's not gonna feel as much pain. So if you're in the gym lifting heavier, doing those higher Yeah . Intensity style workouts is, is your , your body can just handle it. Um, so it's a really great phase , but it's only a short phase

Speaker 1: 28:13

Days . I wish it was longer <laugh> . It is a great phase . Yeah . What are you talking about, <laugh> ? Yeah .

Speaker 2: 28:24

But I'll , I'll tell you some tips to unlock some goodness in that phase . So , um, so, so during that achieve phase, we also do have to be mindful that the next phase is , is going into our deal phase and we almost have to like really flip the switch. So , um, I sort of say that the ladies like you really need to focus in on now , um, is that anti-inflammatory style of work. So we , we go from being really high energy, really hyped up , um, to kind of like, okay, we need to prep for this next phase as well. So the other thing , um, that also changes in your cycles, your mucus , um, your cervical mucus. So you don't really have this , you don't , you don't have the same amount every day , which a lot of women, before I learn this , I just thought it was the same amount every day , but it , it obviously you bleed, you then kind of dries up and then it becomes a little bit thicker and heavier. And then when you're ovulating, and that's if you are doing, you know, that fertility method , um, the cervical mucus is the way to know when you're in that ovulation phase. Yep . Because if you're tracking your temperature, your temperature will spike once ovulation is finished. So you don't, you wanna know that you have ovulated , um, but it's kind of too late if you <laugh> if you did , um, you know, do anything that was extra special in that phase <laugh> and then avoid can be produced. Yeah . So you, you do wanna maybe focus on that if it's something that you are , you know, avoiding or trying to get pregnant mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So , um, then we head into a lu your phase . So in the lu your phase is where she really drops down. She doesn't disappear, she just, she just drops down , um, in the background there and progesterone , um, spikes. So , um, we need to ovulate to produce progesterone. So if you don't ovulate , um, in that cycle , um, then you may not have that boost of progesterone and you'll know if you have ovulated, cause your temperature does, does rise and it's like a small tiny rise. So it might be that you're tracking your temperature, it's like 36.2 , 36.2 , then all of a sudden it's 36.6 or something like that. Okay . Um , so it's only slight , but it's , it's enough to have this really beautiful, the , the effect on the body. So in that pre period phase, your body's , um, your metabolism's a little bit faster, so your body is more efficient at burning fat versus post period . But progesterone is our, is our bestie fat is like too loud, take a , take a breather. Progesterone is very calming on the brain. It's a sary star hormones. So it's, we should in this space be very relaxed and chilled out. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , but I can guarantee majority of women are freaking out more anxious. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> more stressed. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , you know, they may have not have ovulate or they're working so far against what their body's , you know, naturally trying to gravitate to. Yeah . That, you know, they're really, they just really struggle. They struggle with motivation. Um, you know, that the , your brain, as I said, has this like sedative style effect. So you're not that like quirky switched on, you know, in , in this time mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that pre period phase , um, you know, tends to last, you know , anywhere from, you know, past that ovulation day 15, I sort of say like the progesterone sort of peaks at that 21 date , you know, roughly 21 date cycles perfect . And then , um, you know, all the way up until day one again, or day 28 when you, when you start to bleed again. Yeah. So , um, yeah. So she's kind of the best if that wants you just to relax and chill out. Um, but the , the powerful thing is, is because , um, she helps to have that little bit of boost in the metabolism and that thermogenic effect, you are more efficient at burning fat, so you actually can do less, you know, like with your workouts and things like that. I say, you know, in the , in the get synced up and in the bbs I say like, it's a time to actually focus on, you know, your core work , your breathing, you form the functionality of your exercise rather than trying to keep your personal best in, in lifting weights or, you know, thrashing your body drinks . So hit crazy, hit workout . It's more of a time , um, to actually nurture , um, and do that lower impact endurance. Um, you know, that slow steady pace type of work rather than that higher intensity that your body really loves . Yeah . In that , um, follicular ll and that , um, OB phase. So , so we call this the support phase, and this is because you are just doing everything in your power to support your body. Yeah . You wanna be making sure you're fueling with lots of anti-inflammatory foods. Um, you know, with that , um, progesterone, with that increase in metabolism, you're gonna feel more hungry. Your , your estrogen is lowered, so you're going to have less of that sugar balance. And of course, estrogen , um, you know, works a little bit like an appetite suppressant so you feel more hungry mm-hmm. <affirmative> , um, and more of those cravings in that pre pH phase . So if you put on top of that more stress when intense workout , you are going to feel way more hungry, way more , um, way more cravings and you know, that's gonna , you know, imbalance your blood sugar and then you'll have that lack, you know, you'll have less of a higher energy. Also, the fact that progesterone being that sedative style hormone, it's, it's very, like, you don't have that motivation and that drive in that face . So you may feel a little bit like, oh , I don't feel like doing that today, but that's not something to be shun. It's almost like, okay, well what can I do to support my body? And I find like, I really like to create things in that phase . Like this becomes a time where I kind of go in my business, like I'm not in that hustle getting on the phone with clients, you know, like selling and doing all those things on social media. I tend to be, okay , what are all the little behind the scenes things that I can create Yeah . Um , underneath the layers. And you do have like that beautiful creative energy that can come through, but it might not be as shiny. I wanna have my face in the camera mm-hmm . <affirmative> type of thing. Mm-hmm . <affirmative> , it might be more of a, Ooh , this is a really great idea. Let's really like, explore that further and , and get into , you know, get a little bit deeper Yeah . Into maybe how I can create this. But then by the time I get to my , um, achieve phase, I can really push it ,

Speaker 1: 35:01

Put it out there , that new

Speaker 2: 35:03

Or that whatever.

Speaker 1: 35:04

It's so mind blowing , like Yeah , it's serious . Like , I hope everyone at home , at home listening to this gets how much this blows my mind. Because seriously, like I've, I've been in business for over 10 years and I look back and I was hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle. When I first launched my business, it was all about getting it out there, growing my business, and I got burnt out. I was just exhausted because I wasn't listening to my body. I just thought I had to be like all these amazing men that were building these businesses and just go, go, go, go, go. And now, ugh , I do less and achieve more. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I , I listen to my body and I do things more with my cycle. I still have so much to learn. I've learned so much from you just now. But it, just having that awareness and knowing more about a woman's body and what we can do and what we need to do for ourselves. Like, for example, my daughter, she's a teenager and she played football on Sunday and she's drew for a period and she didn't play as well as normal. And, you know, my husband and her were actually having conversation that she's drew for a period, which I would've never have done that with my dad. And he got it. He totally understood that she was at that phase where she was just a bit and didn't have the full energy, whereas the previous two weeks she played amazingly. So <laugh> , you know, for a teenager nowadays to understand that and, and have that awareness, like I just, I I'm, I feel blessed that she's got that information at such a young age because I've been able to share a little bit with her. So Yeah. What you're doing is incredible. It's amazing.

Speaker 2: 36:46

Thank you. Yeah. I love it. And I just love as , as , as I said, like, you know, when you start to see this magic and how you can really adapt, you know, your lifestyle and you know, for me, obviously I have a business, but I love teaching them an exercise. Like it's always been a big thing. And , um, for me, exercise, I just love it. So for me to kind of reel it in and go, okay , I'm pre period , it was mentally quite challenging to do.

Speaker 1: 37:11

Okay .

Speaker 2: 37:12

But I notice how different my body is now and, and , and I'm striving for this, this healthy overall body. I'm not, it's not an aesthetic anymore. It's not a, it's not a , um, it's not a , uh, a body that is, it's just I wanna go to my doctor, get these bloods and have everything functioning so much better . Yeah . And of course, like , you know, eventually we'll have another baby. And my biggest thing is like, I didn't wanna have all of these things under control so I don't have to go through another pregnancy. And so , uh, sorry, another pregnancy that was

Speaker 1: 37:47

With issues Yeah . With

Speaker 2: 37:48

My first time . So, you know, like I think if I didn't understand this, like I, you know, I , I went from being like, yeah , I'm not gonna go on the pill , not really understanding how this stuff will work. And , and yeah . And that was only like, you know, my daughter will be six in October, so that was only five years ago. Yeah .

Speaker 1: 38:07

That's amazing. I had no

Speaker 2: 38:08

Idea. And , and I think it is very complicated for women. Like when I started learning this , um, the amount of , um, courses and information I had to read to then be able to put it into my life mm-hmm. <affirmative> , um, was really hard. Like I, and that's I guess why the methodology of, of Beautiful Bodies Society and the Get Sync app is kind of like, okay , well how can I make this really simple bite size pieces Yeah . That fits into females lifestyles really simply because we all mindlessly also just track on an app. Like, you know, I had , I had an app that I would track , um, and I wouldn't know why the symptoms were there or why my cervical mucus would . And so I, I'm hoping that with the education that I'm teaching and helping women understand it's come like these little bite sized pieces that they can go, okay , well I wanna not have a headache this month , or I wanna , so how can we readjust things differently? Yeah . And , and I I , I say to women with the biggest things, we track our mood, hunger, cravings, energy levels, and sleep. So they're the five symptoms that I find if they're all out of control there , there's something going on with your hormones. Yep . So track them . And really, so we use a , there's a tracking system on the app and we use it a scale of like zero to 10 as to how intense the , the , the symptom was. And then I'll give you an understanding and a lot , I have a lot of women that utilize , um, the app that don't suck , don't have a period, or, you know, maybe they're perimenopausal, they're , they're not having a regular cycle, but their bodies are still producing hormones and they know that these symptoms are gonna come about soon. So instead of having guilt as to Yeah . Oh , why , why am I feeling so sad? Why can't I do this, why I'm motivated? It's like, oh , yep , I've probably ovulated progesterones coming through, you know , drop down , but this is what I need to do. Oh , change my lifestyle. Yes . So yeah, that's, that's the type of thing that I'm trying to help them when we , like we have this , we're in this phase where it's like, if you are not going, you know, we have a lot of those like hit style gyms and stuff where it's kinda like if you're not going that intensity, then you're kind of not good enough . And I feel like for women that really needs to end. Yep . If you think about a , an athlete that, that trains on a , a schedule , um, they have odd seasons off seasons preseasons, yet every day people and women different feel like they had to train to that intensity Yeah . All the time. Yep . So not even a professional athlete that exercises for a job train to the intensity of, you know, they're obviously train her intensity, but they train in different phases of when they need to perform. And I guess that's all what women can do with their cycle. Yeah . Kind of go , you know, when it comes to exercise Yep . Pre period is that strength and conditioning style work, it's coming in and focusing on core breath work , um, and slowing the body down, getting the inflammation down Yeah . Period is like almost that rest phase , you know, just take that time out . Yep . Um , and then you are heading back into preseason and then on season. Mm-hmm . And, and I find like , you know , with your daughter's footy, that might be something that you , you even explain to her and just be like, you know what, you're pre period , so you're probably gonna struggle with like, you're gonna feel the pain more. You're not gonna be able to probably run as fast , but you're probably able to run longer distance. So I , I do feel like, you know, even women athletes, if they , they did start to learn a little bit more about this , it'd be interesting to see how , if they're on their period or training for their period in their pre period phase during the game where the , the coach would change up their position. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh , an interesting thing to definitely

Speaker 1: 41:58

To ,

Speaker 2: 41:58

To look into, but yeah . Yeah. So I just find this all fascinating and , uh, and I guess, yeah, going back to that blue to your support phase, it is , it's just a tough time to support. You wanna be focusing on like low , um, inflammatory types of things. So, you know, if you're gonna increase that intensity of exercise, it is gonna cause more inflammation, more hunger, more cravings. You're gonna be having a lot of high stress things during that phase. So whether it's work, whether it's drinking or going out, not getting the best sleep, you're going to have more inflammation to deal with. And then when you have your period, your period's gonna be so much more intense. So that's that blue chill support phase I like to say is, you know, how can you counteract this stress? Because yeah. We can't say, oh, can't go to your birthday party pre period Yeah . Say not drink alcohol.

Speaker 1: 42:51

Yeah . Really

Speaker 2: 42:52

Focused on nourishing your body. Yeah . You know, maybe you have an earlier night mm-hmm. <affirmative> or the following night or the night before you are , you know, you're resting and you are looking after yourself. You know, you're booking those things in that really does bring you joy and fills your cup. Yeah. Um , and of course, changing up your exercise, changing up your food, maybe you need more food in the pre period phase to really , um, contract that, you know, thermogenic effect. Yeah. Um, prioritize your protein because your blood sugar's gonna be , um, you know, imbalanced . So prioritizing that protein in every meal will help to balance that out. So, you know what I mean ? There's so many little things Yes . That you can just a week to really go, oh , this period phase can actually be really beautiful and calming on the body. Yeah . Um, but yeah, we tend to be in a society that really works against that. Yeah .

Speaker 1: 43:41

And then

Speaker 2: 43:42

Yeah . Then we're back to our period again . That's

Speaker 1: 43:43

It . <laugh> and we go again .

Speaker 2: 43:49

It's, it's very powerful to learn and it's,

Speaker 1: 43:51

And

Speaker 2: 43:51

Women can just release that stress on their shoulders when they start to recognize this and really, yeah . Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:59

Understand . And it's , it's so nice as well to learn because , you know, so many people think it's normal to have these awful periods. And so many people that I speak to that they, they just, they just accept that it's normal. And , you know, we see ads on TV to take painkillers for that time of the month . It's like we've been so conditioned to think that it's normal rather than being taught how to really look after our body and how to make the best of every part of our cycle. But what you are teaching is just, it , it is transformative. It's just, it's a game changer for women. And I feel like if we rewind back in history, we've had our power taken away from us. Yes . When they introduce the pill and , you know, just go on, just go on the pill because it's gonna make your period better and things like that. It's just, you know, how many teenagers are having that that taken away from them because they're not being educated. Yes . It's huge.

Speaker 2: 44:59

Mm-hmm . And I think like , I , I don't know . I hope that we're kind of entering to this new generation , um, of women and I I'm seeing , I see a little bit my business , um, especially with the trends coming up and, and as I said, like, you know, back even three years ago when I first started my business and first started talking about this , no one was really talking about it. Yeah . There's only sort of like one source of information. So for me, I was like, I couldn't understand that . I couldn't grasp, but I , how do I bring this out that's gonna be really simple and really easy to, for people just to get Yeah . And I , I can see how the trend is changing and I , I see a lot of women , um, that are coming off of the pill because they want to just because they want to. Yeah . Or you know, they're having that , they're recognizing that shoes are coming up mm-hmm . <affirmative> or they're recognizing that their skin shoes are not clearing Yeah . Just being on the pill. Yeah . And they wanna understand, well ,

Speaker 1: 45:54

There's more trauma ,

Speaker 2: 45:56

The skin's gonna change when, when the period comes and pre period because , you know, our , the estrogen again, it changes the way our skin is. Yeah . So

Speaker 1: 46:04

It's , um,

Speaker 2: 46:06

It's , and , and you know , even going into premenopause menopause, I think if we continue to , um, have the pill and have the synthetic hormones , um, we're probably going to have a rough, more of a rough time. And I think you can kind of see that in the generation before us. Yeah . You know, menopause is the, is the absolute enemy . It's the devil . And I think, like I kind of don't wanna experience that. No. For me running my, running my hormones through and allowing, you know , um, my body to naturally go about what it's meant to do. Yeah . Hoping that when I get to that per menopause or state or into menopause, that my body , um, can cope with it better. And I'm not having these like, you know, big Yeah .

Speaker 1: 46:50

Massive dip of

Speaker 2: 46:52

Hormones and it's kind just easing out . Who knows

Speaker 1: 46:55

<laugh> that comes Yeah . I've already started that phase . So fun .

Speaker 2: 47:04

And it is like, you know , it's important what you do in that perimenopause phase , how your menopause is, is it comes through and you know , like, you know, the increase in , in , um, in protein is needed for that phase. You know, because progesterone is decreasing. You might not ovulate every month, you're gonna see a fluctuation in estrogen, so you wanna be made for sure you for , you know, foremost bouncing that blood sugar and um , and, and you know, that weight style training and things like that, so build those muscles Yeah . Before you sort of again, fall off , you know, estrogen drops and your then , um, it's almost like what they say that per menopause is , is like puberty again, because

Speaker 1: 47:46

It's all over the show.

Speaker 2: 47:50

I think when you understand your symptoms and , you know, if, if you knew that month, whether you ovulated or not, that would really be able to give rid the , the empower yourself to go, okay, well this is how I can change my lifestyle or Yeah . Track it to , I also say to women, you can use the methodology of the four phases, but we can do it with the moon cycle if you, if you don't, you know , if you say for example, if you've gone through , um, a hysterectomy or, or don't have , um, a period or, you know, say for example you're in on the implant on like I was, I always say like, I understand your symptoms first and foremost. Like what are the symptoms that have been presented for you? Yeah . Um, and then we can start to recognize, okay , well is these , are these symptoms popping up once a month? This is on a cyclical sort of behavior. And then from there we can go, okay, well this is roughly your cycle. Is it to a moon cycle or is it to your own? Are you slightly off of the moon? Not that women are on the moon cycle , but I'm just sort of saying like, you know, I think once we really understand those symptoms and we really understand our bodies mm-hmm. <affirmative> , um, it really opens the door to go, okay, then now I need to adapt these habits so I can just chill out in this . I can Yeah . Get going and do more in this phase . So

Speaker 1: 49:08

Yeah. It's incredible. I love it . I really love this conversation. You <laugh> , thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 49:14

It's a , yeah . It , it opens up the , the door and I think like yeah. The more women can, can learn and share and Yeah . And be inspired by this way of living , they , they just have so much they can just bring that power back to them and Yes. Yeah. And then they can tell their husbands about it, you know what I mean? Exactly . Exactly .

Speaker 1: 49:32

Absolutely .

Speaker 2: 49:33

So like , I'm gonna be more testy in this face . Yeah . Like , you know , if the bins aren't out hell of a lot more than what it would in that other , and so don't be apologetic apologetic about it actually be like, just, just help me more or Yeah . You know , like have that open conversation and you know, it it , yeah . It , it can change your , your relationship

Speaker 1: 49:55

As well. Yeah . It's so true, isn't it? It's so true. Especially, you know, if, if you are married to someone who grew up in a household with No, no other girls, like maybe just their mum , but no other girls. I'm very lucky cause my husband's got two sisters, so he gets it <laugh>, but you know, some, some blokes aren't around other girls growing up and dealing with, you know, all of that. So Yeah, it is true. I , I'm a big believer in sharing with your partner and telling them , like, my husband probably hears way too much from me, but I'm a big sharer and I believe in Yeah. Being very open and honest in our relationship and, you know, he knows what's like , what's part of my cycle I'm in. He just, yeah. He reads me like a book. So it is pretty cool being able to educate him too.

Speaker 2: 50:43

Yeah. And even my husband , um, can feel the shift as well. He , he'll say like, he will even know when I'm like in different phases of my cycle in know as well. And I think it's empowering for, you know , our daughters to understand this, but I think even like for sons to then also know they're gonna marry , um, a female and um, they will also have a cycle. Yeah . So it empowers them and it takes the pressure off, you know, whoever their partner will be Yeah . To go, yeah, they're gonna experience this . My mom does

Speaker 1: 51:15

This. Yeah .

Speaker 2: 51:16

You know , they've got a sister , my sister goes through this, my wife is probably gonna

Speaker 1: 51:20

Go through this . Exactly . And

Speaker 2: 51:22

Again, like instead of , you know, backing the female into the corner of well , you're not good enough in this phase, or you, why can't you, you handle these ? It's like , well , because I'm not meant to. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like literally the hormones are designed in each phase that are different and you know what that, that , um, pre period like, you know, we, we literally are building an organ every month where estrogen thickens the lining , um, progesterone thins aligning of the UREs , and then that's what we bleed every month. So we literally just build up this lining and then if there's not a baby produced , um, it , it sheds . Yeah . So when you think about every single month, we, females are literally as should just grow humans. Um, it's, it's so interesting and, and where our bodies are in this , we're very like, stress sensitive and we're very projective as to, you know, our environment. Cause we, we do, we have to look after the next generation. So I think, I think it's , instead of, you know, underestimating the female body, we should really empower and celebrate Yeah . How, how amazing it is .

Speaker 1: 52:29

Yeah . Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Well, thank you so, so much for your time today on the show. I truly love this. And we might get you back on again to maybe talk about another topic on women's health in health in the near future if you can .

Speaker 2: 52:44

Yeah, absolutely. I would love as said , like all the genetic stuff Yeah .

Speaker 1: 52:47

Call another ball game . Yeah , for sure.

Speaker 2: 52:50

Um, and another level of, again , women re I mean obviously I , I could do it for any male or female, but I find my plates women and just empowering them to really understand this, this next level of themselves. Yeah. It's just again , that relief off their shoulder to know they're not doing all the wrong things. Yeah . By listening to the next crazy diet bag <laugh> .

Speaker 1: 53:12

Exactly. Yeah .

Speaker 2: 53:17

It's not meant to .

Speaker 1: 53:18

Yeah , that's right . So

Speaker 2: 53:19

Individual and different. So

Speaker 1: 53:21

That's Absolutely. Ask you again. No , thank you . And

Speaker 2: 53:24

Um , yeah, I look forward to

Speaker 1: 53:26

Our next chat again. All right , sounds good. And before you go, just um, remind our listeners where they can find you again. So what's your Instagram, your podcast, and your app again? Jane ,

Speaker 2: 53:36

Um , is Instagram and then , um, Instagram and Facebook for my business. It's a beautiful body society. Yep . Um, and then , um, the , the Get Synced app , you can download it from your Google Play store or your Apple Store, and that's, you have to search, get synced by B Bs mm-hmm . <affirmative> and which will pop up . Okay . Um, there is like, you know, free trial and whatnot on there as well. So there's , um, yeah. But we have like tracking exercise, recipes , um, fantastic external tools on there. There's lots of like lifestyle things to help you Yeah . Understand your body Yeah . Um , to your cycle . And of course I've run , um, I do like nutrition consults, DNA consults , um, um, and coaching. So there's a range of things that Fantastic. That I do. So ,

Speaker 1: 54:22

Yeah . Fantastic. And

Speaker 2: 54:24

If you just Google Search Body Society , you'll come up on , hopefully my SEO lady's done a good job, <laugh>,

Speaker 1: 54:31

Making

Speaker 2: 54:31

Sure the website

Speaker 1: 54:32

Find it there. Yeah . Fantastic. Yeah . Awesome. Again , no worries. All right , well thank you so much for listening and joining us on this week's episode, and I will talk with you again very, very soon. Have a great week. Talk soon. Bye.